I wouldnt go so far Honey. id interprit is as "some1 come kidnap my girlfriend for some time so i can play by myself". Its a girl after all. We cant just run around and kill them that would make them more of an extinct specie then they already are. :D

Dwarven females is not extinct, you're just mistaking them for men cos of the beards ;)

yeah...I understand what you mean Noz...raids are so much fun - but also a weekend written off (people are beginning to think I have joined some kind of scary cult...)

Just to remind you all that the meeting will be taking place tonight, at 21.00 server time. Please be on Ventrilo for this time.

Does any channel count? ifso ive been there since... um... Monday.

Notes from the open guild meet on friday.

1. In an effort to start raids on time, the start times listed in the calendar will now be invite times (they were first pull times previously). First pull will be 15 minutes after the listed time. (Raid times will move forward 15 mins to compensate for this change.)

2. The two officer ranks will be merged and the newly spare rank used for applicants for the Raider rank while they are being trialled.

3. For all Raiders, their guild note shall contain main/off-spec. This will be the basis on which they roll for main/off-spec gear drops during runs, regardless of the actual spec they are using during the run.

4. Reestablishment of the guild character night, or a low-level event night, will be looked into.

5. There will be a forum post regarding a new system for the promotion and demotion of officers. This will allow guildies to have more input into who occupies the Officer rank and will come into effect once all guildies currently at Recruit rank have passed through the new system.

6. Discussion on the role of officers and whether the structure of the guild could be improved was cut short once the meeting neared the 4-hour mark. Possibilities raised included:
Abolishing the officer rank to have a flat guild structure.
Having a smaller group of administrators with less distinct abilities than members who would help with guild maintenance.
Replacing the current officer group with a more diverse set of class leaders.

Edited by Signius at June 6th, 2009 - 9:05 pm

I call bagsie on Warrior class leader.


Edited by Vedli at June 5th, 2009 - 8:56 pm

making a forum post wouldn't be very anonymous though, would it.
I know some people want to stay anonymous with these matters.

Having talked with a few people, it seems there is some merit to the idea of reinstating class leaders while simultaneously reducing the number and duties of officers. This would move towards distributing 'power' more evenly throughout the guild. It would also give a basis for regular members to directly vote in leaders for each individual class, giving them a more transparent, and perhaps democratic, voice than the current system.

@noz: If you're referring to (what is now) point 5 in my post above, I meant there would be a follow up on how members could do this. There was talk of using forum polls, which are anon. afaik. I think grun was going to write up details on this but I may have lost track of that point once the meeting's duration passed the 3 hour mark...

i see. never mind me then. thanks for clarification

Some work done; more to do. Updates referring to my post above:

1. This has been implemented. Raid starts have seen some improvement, though there is still room for more.
Invites will begin before start time. Anyone not on by start time may be replaced. First pull within 10 mins of start time.
Standard forum and calendar event text will reflect this for future events.

2. The Officer ranks have been merged and a Trainee rank created for Raider candidates.

5/6. There will be a new thread discussing what is happening with the officer role. 

Updates refer back to original minutes:

2. Raider and Trainee ranks now live. All Members interested in raiding with the guild should post an application here.

3. Will update Raiders and Trainees to reflect their forum applications next time I'm in-game.

4. This would likely need someone to step forward and volunteer. On a related note, the ability to create guild events on the guild calendar will be given to recruits to ensure every guildie has every opportunity to get involved in guild activities.

5/6. See this thread.